This is The Guardian.

Hello, if you haven't already, please go back and listen to the last episode of Politics Weekly.

We recorded an interview with the political scientist and academic Rob Ford, who has written

an excellent book about the 2024 general election.

We covered so much that we've decided to split our interview up over two episodes.

This one is part two. I hope you enjoy.

The Labour Party is the only party that you can knight our country and our communities.

And we will line up together in that fight against the extremes of the left and the right.

We are all ships rising on a turquoise tide,

headed ever closer towards winning the next general election. There is no hope for the Conservative Party.

It is not going to take his fortunes around.

It is not even going to be in opposition after the next general election.

This is not a unique event.

This is happening right across England and Wales.

People are saying they're not leaving the Labour Party.

The Labour Party has left them.

In part one, Rob, we talked in detail with you about Labour and Reform.

I want to get now on to talking about the Greens. Zach Polanski became their new leader in England and Wales in September 2025.

And since then, he's trebled the party's

membership from 66,000 to over 215,000. One thing that I wonder about is, is what we're seeing

here just a reformation of the Jeremy Corbyan coalition of voters? Or is there something new going on that we haven't seen before?

I think largely this is the Corbyn Coalition.

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