I don't know what most white people in this country feel,

but I can only include what they feel from the state of their institutions.

Now, this is the evidence.

You want me to make an act of faith, risking myself, my wife, my woman, my sister, my children, on some idealism which you

assure me exists in America, which I have never seen.

Today's topic is The Green Book.

We sit down with host and award-winning BBC broadcaster Alvin Hall to explore how he came about the Green Book and

Wyatt inspired him to take this trip, talk about the history of the Green Book and how

it's different from what Hollywood would have us to believe.

And he also shares with us some heartbreaking and inspiring stories that showcase how black

Americans use the Green Book and what they had to do to survive on the road.

We hope you enjoy the conversation.

Okay, Alvin, we've got you on the phone here,

and we would love to have you introduce yourself to our listeners,

and maybe you can start to tell us what inspired

you about, you know, doing this journey about the Green Book? I'm Alvin Hall, and I'm the creator,

the producer, and the narrator of driving the Green Book from McMillan podcast. I've been

involved in media for quite a long time.

Many people will know me because I have been teaching about personal finance on Wall Street.

And I have been doing programs like Tell Me More with Michelle Martin on NPR and talking a lot about personal finance.

But in the UK, I have a sort of different image,

that images that I do cultural programming

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