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Matthew Spalding is with us today.

He is Professor of Government at Hillsdale College, and he runs the Graduate School program

in government at Hillsdale's D.C. campus.

He is the author of many things, including

we still hold these truths, rediscovering our principles, reclaiming our future, and a sacred

union of citizens, Washington's farewell address, and the American character. I love ideas,

the American character, the national ideas, the American character,

the national character,

which people used to talk about all the time.

Not much anymore.

He is here with us today to talk about something else.

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