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the Hello and welcome to another episode of Politics Theory Other, a podcast from Tribune magazine.

My name is Alex Doherty and my guest today is Timothy Noonan.

We talked about the current situation

in Afghanistan, the refugee crisis in the country and also the US media discussion around

the American withdrawal, and what descriptions of Afghanistan as a graveyard of empires or a second

Vietnam obscures regarding the history of the country in the 20th and 21st centuries.

Today's show is brought to you by PTO supporters on Patreon and also by Verso Books,

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And now to today's interview. Timothy Noonan is a lecturer in the Department of Global History

at the Free University

of Berlin, where he leads a research group devoted to the history of Islamism during the Cold War.

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