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The Grant Williams Podcast

The Grant Williams Podcast Ep. 104 - Dmitri Alperovitch

The Grant Williams Podcast

Grant Williams

Business, Business:investing, Investing

4.81.6K Ratings

🗓️ 5 June 2025

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

In this episode of The Grant Williams Podcast, I talk with with cybersecurity expert and author Dmitri Alperovitch to discuss his book, ‘World on the Brink,’ and the escalating risk of conflict between China and Taiwan. Dmitri, who forecast Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, draws striking parallels between Vladimir Putin’s motivations and those now driving Xi Jinping’s ambitions toward Taiwan, identifying five recurring factors—distorted historical narratives, belief in national destiny, security imperatives, personal ego, and the urgency of aging leaders—that are converging once again, this time in East Asia. The conversation examines concrete evidence of China’s preparations for a potential invasion, from military training sites in Inner Mongolia replicating Taipei’s streets, to sophisticated cyber campaigns targeting US infrastructure, and the construction of landing craft engineered for amphibious assaults and Dmitri argues that Taiwan’s significance extends well beyond its semiconductor industry; control of the island would enable China to project power across the Pacific, fundamentally altering the regional balance and eroding U.S. influence. Dmitri calls for urgent strategic measures, including decoupling from China in critical technologies and forming a new economic alliance—TAME (Treaty of Allied Market Economies)—to help smaller nations withstand Chinese pressure, and he contends that Western responses to China are not provocations, but long-overdue reactions to years of aggression and intellectual property theft. With a potential invasion window between 2028 and 2032, the discussion underscores the need for robust deterrence, stronger alliances, and strategic competition to preserve stability in the region. Every episode of the Grant Williams podcast, including This Week In Doom, The End Game, The Super Terrific Happy Hour, The Narrative Game, Kaos Theory, Shifts Happen and The Hundred Year Pivot, is available to Copper, Silver and Gold Tier subscribers at my website www.Grant-Williams.com.  Copper Tier subscribers get access to all podcasts, while members of the Silver Tier get both the podcasts and my monthly newsletter, Things That Make You Go Hmmm… Gold Tier subscribers have access to my new series of in-depth video conversations, About Time.

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0:00.0

Before we get going, here's the bit where I remind you that nothing we discussed should be considered as investment advice.

0:16.4

This conversation is for informational and hopefully entertainment purposes only.

0:20.2

So, while we hope you find

0:21.7

it both informative and entertaining, please do your own research or speak to a financial advisor

0:27.1

before putting a dime of your money into these crazy markets. You're about to listen to a special

0:37.1

preview edition of the Grant Williams podcast featuring my very special guest author Dmitry Alperovich, the author of the terrific book, World on the Brink.

0:44.9

The book talks about the potential Chinese invasion of Taiwan and potential American response to it and is a genuinely fascinating story about the past and the future,

0:55.8

and I would encourage you all to find yourselves a copy and dig into it.

1:00.5

Every episode of the Grant Williams podcast, including The Endgame, Supertrific Happy Hour,

1:04.4

The Narrative Game, This Week in Doom, Shifts Happen, Chaos Theory,

1:08.3

and my new collaboration with Dimitri Kaffinus, The Hundred Year Pevert, is available to copper and silver tier subscribers at my website, grant-dash

1:15.6

williams.com.

1:17.5

Copper tier subscribers get access to the podcast, while members are of the silver tier, get

1:21.7

both the podcasts and my monthly newsletter, things that make you go home.

1:25.1

So if you enjoy what you're here on the show and you'd

1:27.7

like more high-quality content like it, then please make your way over to grant-dash Williams.com

1:31.5

and join our excited community today. And with that, on with the show. Dimitri, what a great pleasure to meet you. I've really enjoyed your work and I'm really

1:49.3

excited to get a chance to talk to you. Thanks for doing this. Thanks so much for having me.

1:52.1

It's a pleasure. You know, the book, World on the Brink, I read it, I guess, last summer probably,

1:56.6

and I just found it fascinating and about a subject that really it's impossible to ignore now.

2:02.3

You know, and it's getting more important every day. So rather than have me steal your thunder,

2:06.7

why don't you set the scene for the book, for the people that haven't read it, hopefully a lot of

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