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The Grant Williams Podcast

The Hundred Year Pivot Ep. 5 - Charles Calomiris

The Grant Williams Podcast

Grant Williams

Business, Business:investing, Investing

4.81.6K Ratings

🗓️ 3 June 2025

⏱️ 84 minutes

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Summary

In the fifth episode of The Hundred Year Pivot, Demetri Kofinas and I sit down with economist Charles Calomiris for a probing exploration of America’s fiscal future and the deeper societal forces shaping it. The conversation delves into the concept of fiscal dominance—the point at which mounting government debt and deficits compel inflationary policies, sidelining the intentions of central banks, with Charles warning that the US is edging closer to this scenario, driven by unsustainable deficits and a political system gridlocked by the self-interest of key voting blocs and an unwillingness to confront hard choices around entitlements like Social Security and Medicare. However, the discussion moves beyond the technicalities of economic policy as Charles contends that the roots of the crisis are as much moral and societal as they are financial, pointing to a broader decline in civic responsibility and shared values across generations. Drawing on historical parallels, he suggests that periods of crisis can also spark transformative leadership and a renewed search for social cohesion. This leads to a reflection on the possibility of hope—if individuals and communities can rediscover a sense of purpose and responsibility—as well as the importance of integrity and leadership at every level. Every episode of the Grant Williams podcast, including This Week In Doom, The End Game, The Super Terrific Happy Hour, The Narrative Game, Kaos Theory, Shifts Happen and The Hundred Year Pivot, is available to Copper, Silver and Gold Tier subscribers at my website www.Grant-Williams.com.  Copper Tier subscribers get access to all podcasts, while members of the Silver Tier get both the podcasts and my monthly newsletter, Things That Make You Go Hmmm… Gold Tier subscribers have access to my new series of in-depth video conversations, About Time.

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0:00.0

Before we get going, here's the bit where I remind you that nothing we discussed should be considered as investment advice.

0:16.5

This conversation is for informational and hopefully entertainment purposes only.

0:20.6

So, while we hope you find it both informative and entertaining,

0:24.2

please do your own research or speak to a financial advisor

0:27.2

before putting a dime of your money into these crazy markets.

0:30.8

And now, on with the show. Welcome everybody to another edition of the 100-year pivot.

0:46.2

Joining me, as always, for these shows, is the great and good Dmitri Kaffinus.

0:50.9

Hi, my friend.

0:51.6

How are you?

0:52.7

I am very good. How are you, Grant?

0:56.3

Yeah, pretty good, pretty good. I'm back in London and running around like a lunatic,

1:00.9

but dropping everything for this conversation, which I've been looking forward to since we set this

1:04.8

up. And it's, I mean, the timing could not have been any better.

1:08.3

I mean, we were just saying that. This feels like the perfect timing for this guest and this conversation.

1:15.0

Yeah, absolutely.

1:15.7

So tell everybody who we're about to chat with

1:18.0

and the connection and how Charles has ended up on the show with us today.

1:21.9

So Charles Kalamiris was on the Hidden Forces podcast.

1:25.3

Maybe three years ago, I can't quite a while ago.

1:28.2

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1:28.5

It was a long time ago.

1:30.3

He was, among other things, he was the chief economist at the OCC of the Office of the

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