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As a Swifty, do you think that this even ranks in the top half of Taylor Swift's discography?

I do, actually. I know that sounds weird, but I love the album. I love the fact that it was

kind of a pendulum swing after folklore and Eremor where she kind of had her indie cred moment,

you know, indie acoustic, folk pop, whatever, and then did this album that kind of feels like a

woozy night at the club to me, very electropop, like virtually nothing acoustic on it,

and took a total left turn that was not a left turn back into lover or what she'd done previously,

but it was like a different kind of left turn. So I feel like she's there's some credit for

artistic adventuriveness because it was really different from what she'd just done and gotten a lot of acclaim for that she could have continued that vein,

but also different from kind of like the shiny, upbeat tone of lover, that it's very kind of lower, mid tempo.

I felt it like established a mood, and I felt like a lot of the lyric writing is brilliant. I'm very lyric focused.

So I would put it toward the bottom of the top half. To say, I'm pretty question short. I'm so funny, because I also consider myself like a pretty big Taylor Swift fan, and I've had such a different reaction to Midnights. I mean, to me, it's my least favorite of her album. I found it like a reductive version of stuff she had done in her

pop kind of maximalist era from 1989 through reputation in various forms. I find the Jack

Antonoff production redundant and something that she's returned to in maybe it's not identical to

past versions of it, but definitely felt connected to songs like out of the woods or Miss

Americana and the Heart Big Prince and lots of Jack Antonoff previously Taylor collaborations. I found the lyric writing to be some of her

least evocative and least precise of her entire career. I find it a weak set of songs. And I also

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