N*cki, M*gan & Why it's Time to Rethink Stan Culture (with Rolling Stone's Mankaprr Conteh)
Pop Pantheon
DJ Louie XIV
4.7 • 630 Ratings
🗓️ 8 February 2024
⏱️ 61 minutes
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Summary
The long-simmering beef between Nicki Minaj and Megan Thee Stallion recently exploded from our streaming services with the release of their respective diss tracks "Big Foot" and "Hiss" and onto social media, where Nicki vented her ire for her rival for days, then, thanks to the rapper's most ardent fans, onto some people's front doorsteps and even to the gravesite of Megan's mother.
This beef is yet another moment where the ferocity of stan armies and their relentless defense of their pop star favs went from fun and games on the internet to doxxing, threatening people's families and more. Rolling Stone's Mankaprr Conteh is here to discuss the beef, the role stans have played in it, our increasingly cloistered internet bubbles and realities, what we lose artistically and personally when stanning dominates our cultural discourse and why it may be time to seriously rethink the stan ecosystem, for all of our sakes.
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| 0:38.6 | This past week, we are talking about our reactions |
| 0:41.2 | to the Grammy Awards that happened on Sunday. |
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| 1:14.8 | Okay, so as nobody who's listening to this probably needs to hear, |
| 1:19.0 | Megan the Stallion and Nikki Minaj have been engaged in an on-record beef |
| 1:23.1 | that has spilled onto the internet and spilled into the various Stan armies that exist on the internet. |
| 1:29.7 | This is a topic we have covered on this show before, but I am very fascinated by the way |
| 1:34.7 | that Stan armies are operating in the pop music ecosystem, why they have formed, how they |
| 1:40.9 | operate, and what they speak to more broadly in our both pop culture and our culture more |
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