I went to go see some of the quote unquote black sites

flew over them from a helicopter.

So just to try to get an idea, a little bit of an awareness on this.

As a politician, I think the reason why politicians don't go into this

is because you're apt to be viewed as kooky.

Welcome back to change agents, an Ironclad original presented by Firecracker Forum.

Today we're going to be talking about the UAP Disclosure Act,

or Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon Disclosure Act. My guest today is Representative Eric Berluson,

Congressman Eric Berluson, who represents Missouri's 7th District, has become a leading voice

pushing for transparency and how the U.S. government deals with

unidentified aerial phenomenon. Since taking office in 2023, he has actively engaged in legislative

and investigative efforts to ensure public access to information regarding UAPs. In August 2025,

he introduced the UAP Disclosure Act of 2025 as an amendment to the National Defense Authorization Act.

This legislation aims to mandate the public disclosure of UAP records within 25 years unless the president certifies a clear national security threat.

This legislation aims to mandate the public disclosure of UAP records within 25 years unless the president

certifies a clear national security reason for delay.

Let's dive into the episode.

Why are you APs?

I mean, I would imagine most people don't run for Congress with just that one particular thing in mind, like this is going to be my core issue. How'd you land on this one?

It wasn't something that I did run for Congress and asked to be a part of and campaign for it. I'd never even thought about it until I was on the oversight committee.

I'd been in office for about four or five months. And then David Grush came around and was hitting the media circuit talking about, you know, that he wanted to, he was making an appeal to try to speak to someone in Congress.

And I thought, I'm somebody in Congress. I can't, you know, I'm a brand new member,

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