The GOP's Unpresidential Pledge

The Lincoln Project

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🗓️ 18 August 2023

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

Host Reed Galen is joined by Lincoln Project Senior Advisor Stuart Stevens. They preview the upcoming Republican presidential primary debate slated for next week, examine the state of the GOP writ large (spoiler alert…it isn’t good), and discuss how Trumpism (and everyone that allows it to persist) is inarguably un-American. For more in-depth information be sure to check out the post-2012 RNC Autopsy, the Celinda Lake/Mac Heller Op-Ed, and the Trump Waco speech. Also, be sure to pre-order Stuart Stevens’ new book, The Conspiracy to End America. If you’d like to ask a question or share a comment with The Lincoln Project, send an email to [email protected]. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hey everyone, it's Reid. Before I get started, I know you've already downloaded the episode
0:04.4	because you're listening to it. But before you just get back to what you're doing,
0:08.7	take a look at the episode description for each show. It'll give you more background on our guest,
0:15.1	on their work, whether or not that's a book, or a website, or a sub-stack, or any of the information
0:21.1	that we referenced during the show. It'll give you that extra context you need to not only listen
0:26.9	and understand, but also go spread the pro-democracy gospel. Thanks everybody, and on with the show.
0:41.5	Welcome back to the Lincoln Project. I'm your host, Reid Gailan. Today, I'm once again
0:46.8	joined by Stuart Stevens, Senior Advisor to the Lincoln Project, author of It Was All Lie,
0:52.0	and author of The Conspiracy to End America, his latest title, Coming This Fall,
0:57.1	and available for pre-order wherever fine books are sold. Stuart, welcome back.
1:02.2	Thank you brother. Great to be here. Thanks to ask me to the party.
1:05.2	So Stuart, we are staring down the barrel of the Republican Party's first presidential debate
1:11.0	next Wednesday, as we're recording this August 23rd in Milwaukee, hosted by the likes of Young
1:17.5	Americans for Freedom, which is now led, I think, by Old Americans for Fascism, and Fox News
1:23.6	will be the media host. So far, eight candidates have qualified to be on the stage, Donald Trump,
1:28.6	Ron DeSantis, Nikki Haley, Tim Scott Vivek, Rameswamy, Chris Christie, Doug Burgham, who is the
1:34.7	governor of North Dakota, who literally had to buy people gift cards to get them to give him a dollar,
1:40.0	and former Vice President Mike Pence. Just before we get going, Stuart, just as a matter
1:44.8	of background for our audience, it's worth noting that those who attend the Milwaukee debate
1:48.3	must sign a series of pledges, including a promise to support the eventual Republican nominee.
1:53.0	Some candidates like Chris Christie have been critical of the pledge, and Trump has outright
1:56.5	refused to sign it. The debate is set to be co-moderated by Brett Baer and Martha McCallum of Fox News,
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