Welcome back to the Let's Be Friends podcast. With us today is Father Paul Trubenbach. Father Paul

is the presiding priest of St. Peter and Paul's Orthodox Church in Salt Lake City, Utah. Father

Paul joined the Orthodox Christian faith in 1996 after converting from Lutherism. You may know Father Paul from his popular YouTube

channel where he discusses life-changing Orthodox books, The Lives of the Saints, and shares his

15-part catechism series. Welcome to the show, Father Paul. I'm honored to have you here.

It's a joy for me.

I watched one of your interviews that you did on the Raised and Redeemed podcast with friend Michaela Nikolenko.

She's been on the show and gave her testimony.

And it was such an awesome conversation.

You talked a lot about like spiritual warfare and kind of like how demons work in our lives and how to

fight them as an orthodox Christian and overcoming our passions and such and I would love to

talk about that on the show today but first could you give the listeners a little bit of your

background on how you came not just into the orthodox faith Orthodox faith, but became a priest.

Sure. Well, I was just 12 years old when my family and I became Orthodox. For me, it was

initially a change of address, but after a while, I kind of learned a bit more about my family's

journey. And I understood at the time kind of what was going

on. We were Lutheran. We kept jumping around from one Lutheran church to another and found that

the faith just wasn't consistent. You get a new pastor, you get a very different perspective

of the faith. And eventually in an Episcopalian parish, the pastor there, Father Mackay,

took my parents aside and said, if you want a

faith that's not going to leave you, you need to look to Orthodoxy. And he said that he wanted

to be an Orthodox priest himself, but he was in very poor health. He was afraid he didn't have

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