I'm Claire Fallon and I'm Emma Gray.

And this is Love to See It, an obsessively detailed recap podcast about reality dating

shows like The Bachelor and other pop culture that makes us laugh, cry, and curse the patriarchy.

We can't live with these shows and we can't live without them, but we can break down every

juicy moment and unpack all the weird messages these shows send us about love, sex, and dating.

Welcome to Love to See It, a podcast about Gary's legal obligation to marry every single one of

the women he's dating. Sorry, Gary. We don't make the rules for a guy. We're just trying to enforce

the law around here, okay? But here with us to get into week five of Golden Bachelor,

truly the most heartwarming and heart-wrenching show on all of television. We are joined by Kate

Oletta, editor-in-chief of Scary Mommy, and also our friend and longtime colleague at Huff Post.

Yes. Just three United. Three Huff Ghosts here together again.

So excited to have you. Thank you for having me. I'm so happy to be here.

So exciting. There's so much to talk about. So much to talk about.

And obviously, when this episode is coming out, it is Friday, and we are talking about the Golden

Bachelor, so you can probably tell that we've made a decision to continue our Golden Recaps on Fridays

and move Bachelor in Paradise to Mondays. We've heard from a pretty overwhelming number of

you that you prefer this. And look, we can't make everyone happy, but we are really just trying to

do what's best for the show and the audience as a whole. And we hope that you will continue

on this dual, pronged journey with us on Fridays and Mondays.

When it's over, we're all going to be sad. So that's all I have to say. I'm already sad.

I'm sad over. And I haven't felt this way about a Bachelor show in so long. Like, I have to admit,

you know, I loved Charity season. That was like, that was when I got the sense that things might be

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