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The Dave Chang Show

The Glory of Complicated, Simple, Crazy, Beautiful, Stupid Art (and Life), With Jerry Saltz

The Dave Chang Show

The Ringer

Food, Society & Culture, Arts

4.88.7K Ratings

🗓️ 8 December 2022

⏱️ 88 minutes

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Summary

Pulitzer Prize–winning art critic, beloved 'Dave Chang Show' guest, and 'Art Is Life' author Jerry Saltz returns to the show to survey the state of art and food in 2022, and to deliver a bracing dose of motivation to Dave, Chris, and anyone else out there embarking on a potentially terrifying creative endeavor. Also: ancient DNA, private psyches, Chris Ofili, Laurie Anderson, zombie formalism, the end of linear time, dirty shamans, Jasper Johns, caveman cooking, F. Murray Abraham, Ai Weiwei, "The Raft of the Medusa," Dolly Parton, fighting your demons, Neal Brennan, Thomas Kinkade, art vs. craftsmanship, Cy Twombly, Jason Polan, and a Coen Brothers debate. Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Guest: Jerry Saltz Producers: Sasha Ashall and Jordan Bass Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

If you haven't signed up for the Discord channel, it's my weekly annoying reminder to do so.

0:04.8

We have a wonderful community, lots of how to consume culture, how to cook things more deliciously,

0:12.3

how to live life a little bit more deliciously, lots of guides, etc. On top of that,

0:17.7

we have still some wonderful partner discounts for Cook any day. We have 15% off for this is Roy.

0:25.6

I'm just letting everyone know in my life. That's pretty much the Christmas present that I'm giving.

0:30.8

Chris, Chris Yeing. I'm asking you to address. That's what you're getting.

0:34.5

I had a feeling of Panatoni was headed my way. Because you know what? It's a really good gift.

0:40.0

It's a gift that you know is going to make someone happy and

0:44.5

comment here. Momofuku shop.momofuku.com. There's a code for that. In all things Momofuku,

0:51.0

you can visit us at our website shop.momofuku.com for our noodles, our chili crunch, all of our

0:57.1

salt and spices. So check it out. You can get that discount code by sending up for Discord and

1:02.7

ensuring that Chris Yeing will still have a job in the new year. Let's get on to the show.

1:12.2

I'm going to do the Dave Chang show, part of the Ringer podcast network presented by Major

1:23.3

Dema Media. Thank you a lot Tango as always. Probably one of my favorite guests. My favorite

1:29.6

people is joining us today. This man does his work is no better critic in my opinion,

1:39.2

right in today than Jerry Salts. I think of him less as a critic and more of an artist. I really do.

1:44.8

If you look at the scope of everything he's done, the totality of his work,

1:48.8

pull it to prize winning critic of 2018, the chief art critic for New York magazine, Jerry Salts.

1:56.7

He's been on this pod two times before. Should listen to the first episode and the second episode.

2:01.5

Also, we had a great episode with his wife who will say is the better superior critic,

2:05.9

Roberta Smith of the New York Times. He has a new book out called Art Is Life,

2:12.4

Icon's an iconoclast visionaries and vigilantes and flashes of hope in the night.

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