The Global South Holds a Better Future of Tech w/ Juan Ortiz Freuler

Tech Won't Save Us

Paris Marx

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🗓️ 16 July 2020

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Paris Marx is joined by Juan Ortiz Freuler to discuss the recent global negotiations on the taxation of multinational corporations, how Africa is demanding the digital labor of its citizens be accounted for, how these tensions threaten to fragment the web, and why the Global South may hold a better future of technology that transcends the capitalist, centralized, and individualist platforms which currently dominate. Juan Ortiz Freuler is an Affiliate at the Berkman Klein Center for Internet ...

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0:00.0	If we shift to a mindset that speaks more to interdependence, to how we are part of a community,
0:05.5	we can start to think about different structures of organizing information, of organizing societies.
0:11.0	Hello. Hello and welcome to Tech Won't Save Us, a podcast that is always interested in thinking about better ways to organize technology to serve the public good.
0:32.5	I'm your host, Paris Marx, and today I'm joined by Juan Ortiz Freunder.
0:36.6	Juan is an affiliate at the Berkman Klein Center for Internet and Society at Harvard University, and today I'm joined by Juan Ortiz Freuler. Juan is an affiliate at the Berkman-Klein Center for
0:38.8	Internet and Society at Harvard University and a member of the Tierra Commune Network of Researchers.
0:45.1	Today we're talking about a recent piece that Juan wrote for Open Democracy called the Case for a Digital
0:50.2	Non-Aligned Movement. I just want to give you a heads-up that since recording the last
0:54.5	episode, I got braces, so I might sound a little bit different. It should be fine. If you like our
0:59.9	conversation, please leave a five-star review on Apple Podcasts. Make sure to share it with any friends
1:04.5	or colleagues you think would be interested. And if you want to support the work that I put into
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1:16.3	Thanks so much and enjoy the conversation.
1:18.5	Juan, welcome to Tech Won't Save Us.
1:20.6	Hi, Paris. Thanks for having me.
1:22.2	It's great to speak with you.
1:23.1	So you recently wrote a piece for Open Democracy where you talked about the ongoing tax negotiations,
1:29.5	or I guess the tax negotiations to tax tech giants globally that recently collapsed.
1:35.0	And you explained how the discussions that went on with that are kind of part of a broader way
1:40.4	of thinking about how technology actually creates value and where value comes from,
1:45.3	and whether the global North with technology that is so entrenched in the capitalist mode of
1:51.4	production can really kind of develop the solutions that will be necessary to create a
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