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It's the Big Blue Ban banter New York Giants

football podcast. I'm Dan Schneier. Join us always my co-st Nick Villado. We lead you in with the

amazing graphic that Nick put together of today's game. Is that the official, probably the

official from the game today? A lot of bad officiating today, Nick. Even on the Sunday night football game, I thought there was some really bad officiating. Officials were having a tough time this year. It's the midseason mark. But man, oh man, it was a rough one for the Giants. And we are leading off with this discussion, I think, about this game. Though I will caveat it by saying, Nick, neither of us believe the Giants lost this game because of the officials.

Is that correct?

Of course.

Giants were manhandled in this game by the Philadelphia Eagles just two weeks after the Giants manhandled the Philadelphia Eagles.

And you could just tell that they were up for the task, the Philadelphia Eagles.

In the trenches, both sides.

Giants couldn't stop the run whatsoever.

Defensively was a massive problem, but that is completely separate and independent from how bad the officiating was in this game. And I also think it's going to be, as you tweeted,

I think that play with Kvon Tibino and the tush push, that's going to be the impetus to this rule getting changed somehow.

I don't know if it's going to be flat out banned or if the NFL is just going to come down and really force officials to over and hyper officiate that specific play because that's just an absolute joke.

Logic is completely out the window when it comes to this because there's no way for

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