Welcome to the Not Old Better Show, Smithsonian Associates Interview Series on radio and podcast.

The show covering all things health, wellness, culture, and more.

The show for all of us who aren't old, were better.

Each week we'll interview superstars, experts, and ordinary people,

doing extraordinary things, all related to this wonderful experience of getting better, not older.

Now here's your host, the award-winning Paul Vogelzang.

Thank you, and welcome to the Smithsonian Associates Interview Series on The Not Old Better Show.

I'm Paul Vogelzang, and today's conversation is as big as it gets.

We're talking about the future of life, not just on Earth, but beyond it.

Our guest today is Smithsonian Associate Dr. Caleb Scharf, NASA astrobiologist, acclaimed

author, and one of the boldest thinkers about the place of life in the universe.

In his new book, by Dr. Sharf, The Giant Leap, Dr. Sharf makes a provocative case that our expansion into space may not

just be a technological milestone. It might be the next phase of evolution itself.

Smithsonian Associate Dr. Caleb Sharf calls this moment a disruption in the story of life

as profound as when creatures first crawled out of the sea.

Dr. Sharf has spent his career studying black holes, exoplanets, and the fingerprints of life across the cosmos.

Dr. Sharf is also a storyteller. You will enjoy that today who blends science with wonder

and reminds us that the night sky isn't just

something to look at it's something we're becoming part of if you've ever stared up at the stars and

ask where are we going next this episode is for you settle in i've enjoyed putting the music

together i think this will take you back a bit, but

the questions we're asking today are all about what's ahead. This is the Not Old Better Show,

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