Hey, Giant Fans. Welcome to the Giant Insider podcast. My name is Jerry Foley.

I am the senior editor of the Giant Insider newspaper. And with me as always, as the beat writer, the heart of Giants Nation,

Crispy's Ignatur. And if I'm speaking a little more quickly today, it's because we have with us, we have the honor of having with us,

someone who I'm sure most people believe, most Giants fan believe,

is the greatest tight end in the history of the Giants franchise, two-time All-Pro,

two-time Super Bowl champion, one of the best to ever do it. Mark Bavaro. Mark, thank you so much

for joining. My pleasure. Thanks for having me. Mark, how you doing me, man? know, we're digging out of the snow still here. I guess you're still in Massachusetts, right? So I guess you got blasted even more than us.

Yeah, we got some snow. We've got some more on the way. It's winter. What do you expect?

So folks, listen, like Jerry just said, you know, to me it's a no-doubter. Mark is the best tight end. And we've had some good ones, but he's the best one in the history of the franchise. And you know what, Mark, let's get into it a little bit. We don't know each other, but we got the same vowel, the end of our name. So, I mean, both from immigrant families and Mark,

I like to talk a little bit about your mom and dad,

you know, your dad, the work ethic that they had,

their blue collar work ethic, they came to this country.

And you, obviously, your work ethic.

Talk about the influence, especially your dad had on,

you're growing up, and then going to your college career

and in your professional career.

Well, my grandfathers were both immigrants from Italy.

My grandmothers were the daughters of immigrants from Italy.

So I'm, you know, I'm not immigrants.

You know, you can say it technically, it's true, but we were, I was pretty American.

I grew up pretty American, you know.

And my mother and father both grew up in an Italian neighborhood in Boston, in East Boston,

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