Guys, this is Gary Jenkins. As you all know, you regulars know, I'm a retired intelligence unit

detective, the Kansas City Police Department, and now a podcaster. And I have a couple of

documentary films that deal with the Kansas City Mafia. But today, we're not talking about me.

Today we're talking to Dean Job. He wrote a heck of a book. The publicist for the book producer

sent me a copy of the book. I don't read all these guys, as you know, but I do start reading

them and I make notes from them. But this one, I started reading it, and I loved it. I was hooked.

I read the whole thing all the way through. It's called a gentleman and a thief, the daring jewel heist of a

jazz age rogue Arthur Barry. Now, Arthur Barry was a jazz age rogue, if there ever was one.

So, and let me, I'm going to read you a review before we start talking. A top shelf work of true

crime, Job tells Barry's tale with both rigor

and pathos, painting a tender portrait of a crook who was never fearsome.

This is liable to steal the reader's hearts.

That's from Publisher's Weekly, and it is a great book.

There's no doubt about it.

So, Dean Job's welcome, and start off talking a little bit about your own writing history and how you got onto this story and some background on you. And then we'll talk about the book.

Well, I'm a former journalist and over the years I'd written books. My beat as a reporter was covering the courts, covering criminal trials and anything going on in the courthouse.

And my background was in history, and the two kind of collided in a nice way that I started writing

features about old cases in Nova Scotia, Canada, where I live, and just got hooked with the

storytelling, the way that true crime can give you a window in the past

and, you know, dramatic events, interesting storylines, but you can also learn a lot about history.

So about 10 years ago, Algonquin Books, my publisher published Empire of Deception,

and it was about a Chicago con man in the 20s, the jazz age. I love the era.

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