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The Genesis of Hamas, the Failure of "Land for Peace," and Theological Jihad Cliff May discussed the failure of the "land for peace" policy following Israel's 2005 withdrawal from Gaza and the violent takeover by Hamas. Hamas, representing the Muslim Bro

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John Batchelor

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🗓️ 10 October 2025

⏱️ 9 minutes

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The Genesis of Hamas, the Failure of "Land for Peace," and Theological Jihad

Cliff May discussed the failure of the "land for peace" policy following Israel's 2005 withdrawal from Gaza and the violent takeover by Hamas. Hamas, representing the Muslim Brotherhood and born from theological jihad, views its mission as the destruction of Israel to establish an emirate. May emphasized that any cessation of hostilities is merely a hudna (truce), used by Hamas to rebuild for future battles, not a lasting peace.

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0:00.0

This is CBS Eye on the World. Here's John Batchelor.

0:12.0

Gaza, the negotiations underway in Cairo are moving in a positive direction. We don't know at sewer glass darkly about details. They're critical. However,

0:21.6

I welcome Cliff May, the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies, writing his Washington Times column

0:28.2

most recently. We do note that the president has said there's a success. We wait the details,

0:34.7

but in the meantime, Cliff has done us a favor.

0:42.7

I'm going back to what we can identify as the beginning of the monster called Hamas,

0:46.1

the gangsters of October 7, 2023.

0:55.5

The year is 2005, a significant event in the life of Gazans and the Israelis who lived in the Gaza Strip until that moment.

0:57.0

Cliff, a very good evening to you.

0:58.4

What happened in 2005?

1:01.2

What have we learned about those events?

1:01.9

Good evening to you.

1:03.4

Good evening to you.

1:06.9

Yes, in 2005, the Israelis withdrew from Gaza.

1:08.2

They withdrew every farmer.

1:30.4

They withdrew every soldier, every cemetery, every synagogue. They left behind high-tech greenhouses. They thought the Palestinians could use, make flowers and fruit to send to Europe. But they were soon trashed. The Israelis were testing a proposition. The proposition was that there was a land for peace deal to be had. If the problem was that there were Jews, Israelis, in Gaza, which the Palestinians wanted for their own, eventually to be a state, then okay, we'll leave and maybe we'll normalize relations with whatever evolves in Gaza after that and see if we can extend it

1:46.2

to what's called the West Bank. What happened instead between 2005 and 2007, Hamas took over.

1:52.5

They did so violently. They expelled the Palestinian Authority. They threw people off roofs.

1:57.9

They kneecap people. Very, very tough. Once Hamas took over what happened,

2:02.1

the international donor community sent in huge amounts of aid, huge amounts. And the United Nations

2:08.8

sent in various agencies to provide all kinds of social services, health care, education.

2:14.5

Of course, Hamas set the rules. Education had to teach children to hate Israelis and hate Jews.

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