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We have with us today Abigail Fibald.

She is professor in the McGrgrath institute for church life at

notre dame her memoir into the deep an unlikely catholic conversion came out in 2018 she's been with us

before on the podcast to discuss that she had an interesting essay in first things i think this was

your first essay piece for for us, that year entitled

Evangelical Gnosticism. Her new book is The Genesis of Gender, a Christian theory. That is our topic

today. Welcome, Professor Favala. Hi, thank you. Thanks for having me. We jump right into the book

here. You say that you have taught right at the beginning of the book that you've taught

gender theory for many, many years. Did you always suspect long ago, I don't know how many years, that gender would become such a central

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