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Nicole Stelle Garnett joins us today. She is Professor of Law at Notre Dame and a fellow

at the Manhattan Institute. She's the author of Lost Classroom,

lost community, Catholic schools' importance in urban America. A recent piece in City Journal entitled

A Victory for Religious Liberty and Educational Pluralism. The topic in that piece is going to be our topic today.

She's here to discuss the recent Supreme Court decision Carson versus Macon. I mentioned

Macon is the right pronunciation of that, about a situation in the state of Maine. Welcome,

Professor Garnett. Thanks so much for having me.

Okay, well, let's get right to the case.

People want to hear about what is the background of this case?

When did it start?

Well, there's a long background.

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