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CONFLICTED

The Gaza Peace Deal: Behind the Scenes with Aimen Dean

CONFLICTED

Message Heard

History, Religion & Spirituality

4.7 • 1.5K Ratings

🗓️ 15 October 2025

⏱️ 69 minutes

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Summary

This week on Conflicted, Thomas Small is joined by co-host Aimen Dean, who returns to the show to provide a vital debrief on the recent Gaza peace deal. The episode focuses on the fragile ceasefire deal brokered by President Trump, which has brought a temporary halt to hostilities between Israel and Hamas. Aimen is back with his signature, deeply informed analysis, answer your and Thomas’ questions to get beyond the narrative we normally hear about the conflict… Thomas and Aimen unpack the hidden diplomatic maneuvers behind the deal, including the motivations of key players like Saudi Arabia and France, whose diplomatic efforts set the stage for peace talks by applying intense pressure on the Israeli government. Aimen shares his explosive, albeit speculative, intel on the Israeli airstrike on Doha in September and its profound consequences, including the potential for Saudi Arabia to acquire nuclear weapons as a deterrent. The conversation also delves into the military realities on the ground in Gaza, assessing the successes and failures of the IDF's campaign and the prospects for Hamas's future. The episode offers a sobering look at a peace deal that, while celebrated as a triumph, may be little more than a temporary ceasefire in a region still teetering on the brink. Want more of Thomas and Aimen? Then you’ll need to subscribe to the Conflicted Community. And don’t forget, subscribers can also join our Conflicted Community chatroom, where you can interact with fellow dearest listeners, discuss episodes past and future, get exclusive messages from Thomas and Aimen, ask future Q&A questions and so much more. All the information you need to sign up is on this link: https://conflicted.supportingcast.fm/  Conflicted is proudly made by Message Heard, a full-stack podcast production agency which uses its extensive expertise to make its own shows such as Conflicted, shows for commissioners such as the BBC, Spotify and Al Jazeera, and powerfully effective podcasts for other companies too. If you’d like to find out how we can help get your organisation’s message heard, visit messageheard.com or drop an email to hello@messageheard.com! Find us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MHconflicted And Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MHconflicted Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

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Welcome back, dear listeners. It's me, Thomas Small, and just look who's with me.

0:38.0

I'm back.

0:39.6

Amon's back!

0:41.3

The listeners, Amen, the listeners, have been absolutely clamoring for you, man,

0:47.2

especially given everything that's been going on in the Middle East.

0:51.9

Well, what can I say, Thomas?

0:53.8

Just as the Middle East was getting interesting, I had my own, of course, like a period of

0:59.6

health and personal crisis, but nonetheless, I came out of the other side, better, happier,

1:05.7

and stronger.

1:06.7

You're still alive?

1:07.7

That's the good news.

1:08.7

Indeed.

1:09.7

Now, I don't think, Amon, we can expect you to tell us what you've really been doing these past two months or so.

1:15.8

The one dearest listener on Discord asked, hey, Amon, where are you?

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