The Gaslighting & Conversation Expert: This Is A Sign You’ll Divorce in 10 Years!

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett

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🗓️ 22 December 2025

⏱️ 171 minutes

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Trial Lawyer and leading communication expert JEFFERSON FISHER reveals how gaslighting and narcissism work, why people don’t listen to you, and the courtroom tricks for respect and power! Jefferson Fisher is a Texas trial lawyer and leading communication expert. He is the founder of Fisher Firm, creator of The Jefferson Fisher School of Communication, and author of the book, “The Next Conversation: Argue Less, Talk More”. He explains: ◼️The fastest way to spot a narcissist in under 30 seconds ◼️The phrase that instantly exposes gaslighting ◼️Why people stop respecting you mid conversation ◼️The courtroom trick that makes people listen ◼️How to control any conversation without raising your voice 00:00 Intro 02:56 These Communication Skills Will Change Your Life and Career Trajectory 09:40 How to Have Control Over Conversations 12:14 The Psychology Behind Feeling Comfortable in Any Conversation 15:42 How Your Body Language Can Influence Others’ Opinions 20:38 The Traits of Confident People 22:40 Dealing With Difficult Conversations and Gaslighters 24:38 The Words Gaslighters Use Against You 31:00 The Attachment Style Most at Risk of Being Gaslighted 39:19 This Is What Manipulators and Narcissists Do 42:55 How to Stop a Narcissist 49:15 Your Reactions Reveal So Much About You 51:21 How to Stop Being Easily Triggered 55:00 How Being Honest With People Can Help You 01:00:34 How Our Parents’ Arguments Shaped Our Love Relationships 01:15:19 Find Your Priorities and Set Your Boundaries 01:17:20 People Pleasers 01:23:01 Relationship Arguments: Can They Be Good? 01:25:24 A Big Indicator That Something Really Matters to Your Partner 01:33:19 The Secret to Spot Anyone Being Fake 01:34:58 The Fake Laughs 01:42:05 These Small Moments Will Have the Biggest Impact on Impressions 01:53:30 Top 5 Things to Become the Best Communicator at Anything 02:03:02 Phones Have Become Our Pacifier to Relieve Anxiety 02:04:25 Stop Overexplaining 02:08:11 The Power of Taking Pauses to Think 02:10:50 One of the Best Traits of Leaders 02:17:43 How to Help Someone Grieving 02:27:09 The Counterattack to Bullies: Expose Them 02:34:22 Huge Relationship Unlock: Energy Checking With Your Parent 02:40:16 The Predictor of Whether a Relationship Will Last Follow Jefferson: Instagram - https://bit.ly/4pzxZ21 Facebook - https://bit.ly/4rUhTS6 TikTok - https://bit.ly/4aihiDv YouTube - https://bit.ly/3YplSIG You can pre-order ‘The Next Conversation Workbook’, here: https://amzn.to/3XSHOvH The Diary Of A CEO: ◼️Join DOAC circle here - https://doaccircle.com/ ◼️Buy The Diary Of A CEO book here - https://smarturl.it/DOACbook ◼️The 1% Diary is back - limited time only - https://bit.ly/3YFbJbt ◼️The Diary Of A CEO Conversation Cards (Second Edition) - https://g2ul0.app.link/f31dsUttKKb ◼️Get email updates - https://bit.ly/diary-of-a-ceo-yt ◼️Follow Steven - https://g2ul0.app.link/gnGqL4IsKKb Sponsors: Adobe - https://Adobe.Ly/OneBetter Wispr - Get 14 days of Wispr Flow for free at https://wisprflow.ai/DOAC Stan: NO PURCHASE NECESSARY. VOID WHERE PROHIBITED. For Official Rules, visit https://DaretoDream.stan.store

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0:00.0	If you've ever worked in a startup, you already know it's chaos. It's speed and it is survival.
0:04.9	And now with AI accelerating everything, that speed has only increased. Startups are landing enterprise
0:09.5	deals even earlier than before, but what comes with those deals is regulatory requirements,
0:14.9	something a lot of early stage businesses aren't equipped to handle. And a SOC too, if you know what
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0:56.9	And the bigger win, your peace of mind. What are the five most important things for anyone who's
1:02.8	striving to be a masterful communicator to get what they want out of life? The first is authenticity.
1:09.7	And presence is the highest form of authenticity.
1:11.6	Okay, on that point, I'm gonna play this video on the screen that went viral of Marley
1:15.6	Cyrus and Amy Campbell. I haven't seen this. That's painful to watch.
1:20.6	Number two. Reduce the amount of distraction. Three, stop over explaining.
1:25.6	Number four. Know how to deal with their sadness.
1:29.0	And I'll go through all of these in detail.
1:31.1	But number five is you have to know how to handle the narcissist and the gaslighter.
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