Hello, I'm Dr. Stephen Hassan with another episode of my podcast, cults, culture, and coercion.

And I have a distinguished guest with me. I've been looking forward to this interview for a long time.

Dr. Frank R. George is a PhD in psychology from the University of Colorado.

He's an internationally established expert in psychology, neuroscience, narcissism, and addictions.

He was a senior fellow and chief of behavioral and biomedical, biochemical genetics at the National Institutes of Health for six years.

Dr. George, man, of you definitely rock it, currently ranks within the top 1% of Google Scholars

worldwide with nearly 200 publications, over 30 patents worldwide.

Wow.

Your work's been cited nearly 4,000 times in scientific literature.

And for us, newbie scholars, that's like, whoa, that's really impressive.

And 10 years ago, noting that pathological narcissism looked very much like a form of addiction,

you morphed your background into a focus on pathological narcissism,

where you've worked ever since.

So you were the head of the Colorado chapter of the duty to warn,

a group composed of tens of

thousands of mental health professionals, including my friend Bandy X. Lee, who edited the

dangerous case of Donald Trump, whose mission has been to warn about Donald Trump being unfit

for office.

You've appeared on 16 minutes, 2020, Rolling Stone, a million other places, your legal expert witness, and you have a substack called The Gaslight Report by Frank George.

I'm on substack too, so we should do a substack live sometime, George.

But welcome.

And please thank you for your work first and foremost.

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