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Can I please have your attention?

Can you diggah? Geechrenges! Greetings your listeners, this is Jonah Goldberg, host to the Remnant podcast.

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Extremely excited in a effulgent and nerdy way about today's guest.

Listeners may recall, readers may recall about a month ago, month and a half at the end of March. I had Jonathan

Hyde on, I had Tim Carney on, I wrote about their books several times, and as I was writing about

all of them, one name kept popping up which was

Allison Gopnick and Allison Gopnick is one of the world's foremost experts on what

a long-time listeners will remember I tend to call little

barbarians which is babies. She's written a slew of books about brain

development, the development of the mind, the philosophy of mind, and one of the

metaphors that she used in one of her books about the Carpenter versus the

Gardner, again a long-time listeners will recall, or readers of my book will recall,

the Garden metaphor in British philosophy

is one of my favorite expositions and illuminators of things and I was like, okay, I gotta have

her on because she's beating me to the punch and all this stuff in this weird sort of

metaphorical analogous way and so long story short we have Professor Allison Gopnik

on she's a professor of psychology at UC Berkeley she's also part of the

Berkeley AI research group which we will talk about a little bit.

She's authored many books. We'll put her website and all that kind of stuff in the show

notes and Allison Gotnick. Welcome to the remnant.

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