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This is a podcast from The Times. Go to The Times. Go to the Times.co. UK. Well, thanks for joining me again for another game podcast bonus and I'm joined by

Patty Barclay. Patty you wrote a piece

in in Saturday's times about about the classical about Barcelona around Madrid yeah I want to

ask you about some of the some of the stuff that went on but I want to start with

something else which is I mean this game we've been saying for a long time is the

biggest game in the world yes are these the two best sides in the world?

I think so now. I think what the two legs of the Spanish Super Cup taught us was that a no matter how good our

community shield match is, and it was an absolute cracker

the season between the Manchester clubs.

The Spanish are going to come along and beat it with these two sides.

But what it taught us vis-à-vis the Champions League

two-legged semi-a-last season is that is that Real Madrid are getting closer.

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