As I dove into this case, deeper than I ever had before, which included listening to

the tapes and their entirety for the first time, one thought kept swirling around at my

mind, and that thought was that there's simply no way that Gacy's victim count stops

at 33. What became apparent to both there and I, as we dug in, is that once Gacy was

arrested and even more significant, when the creep started to talk, the investigation

into Gacy for all intents and purposes stopped. Now, the identification of the victim's

aspect didn't stop, and that was a time consuming endeavor, which the Cook County Sheriff's

Police spent a majority of their time focusing on, and that was absolutely necessary. But

the more they began to uncover, not just the police, but the media, regarding the timeframes

in which the killings were thought to have occurred, and the possibility that he had multiple

accomplices, the fact that he was traveling around the Midwest all of the time, and the fact

that he is thought to have killed his first victim, Tim McCoy, in 1972. And then, has

Carolyn Gang move into the house for four years, and the narrative is that he killed only

two young men during that time frame? Just doesn't fit. You've heard the portions of the

tape, where you hear the creep say, how do I know I didn't kill a hundred? You've heard

him talk about, how do I know that I wasn't doing this when I was traveling? And we have

those same questions. I asked Bill Conkel about the work records that Gasey claims that

he had that would indicate exactly where he was.

I mean, the first discussion I had with him is I said, well, you know, I don't know what

you actually have. I said, I suspect that you got it from Gasey at the joint, or copies,

but who knows what where they came from? Because I'll tell you, here's why. All of the records,

he was a pack, Gasey was a pack rat. Up in the attic, I mean, we found all kinds of stuff,

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