Do you remember that time when your ex was arrested for murdering 33 young men and 26 of them were buried under the crawl space of what was then your marital home?

Yeah, me either.

Now, we continually discussed the victims in this case.

The young men that lost their lives, the families that were left behind.

The young men who were ensnared by the creep and who were often raped and assaulted, but somehow lived to tell the tale.

But what about Carol Hoff?

Who is Carol Hoff, Bob? You may be asking.

Well, Carol was Gacy's second wife.

Yes, second.

See, Gacy had been married previously to Marilyn Myers.

We've mentioned earlier in the season.

She was the woman whose father owned the Kentucky Fried Chicken franchise back in Iowa.

Gacy and Marilyn had two children together.

Talk about victims.

Can you even imagine?

Darren has been very keen on trying to get these two on the podcast.

But we have discussed the possibility that they may have been shielded by their mother.

And everyone else for that matter.

To the fact that Gacy was their father.

Talk about a potentially incredibly awkward conversation.

I can't say that I would enjoy being the guy to disclose that horrible family secret to Gacy's two kids.

If you recall, Marilyn divorced Gacy shortly after he was convicted of the PSA to be charged as back in Waterloo, Iowa in 68.

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