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The Gacy Tapes Ep 19: The Wheels of Justice Turn Slowly.

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True Crime

4.62.3K Ratings

🗓️ 7 October 2021

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

The investigation and the excavation, which are both anything but complete, take a two day break for the Christmas. Gacy gets settled into his new room at Cermac memorial hospital where he is, for whatever twisted and depraved reason, treated as a celebrity. This newfound limelight would burn out pretty quickly in the coming months. Of which thirteen would come and pass, before the trial of John Wayne Gacy, would begin, Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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If you've been getting a vibe from us throughout the course of this podcast, that we don't

0:09.0

believe that the creep was acting alone, that he in fact had help, not only in the disposal

0:15.0

of his victim's bodies by Kram and Rossi, but possibly much, much more, that you would

0:22.2

be spot on.

0:23.2

You're about to hear a story from a woman who has asked that we keep her name to ourselves,

0:28.8

and we will of course respect her wishes, but the story must be heard.

0:34.5

We have vetted it, it's legit, and it certainly does nothing to dissuade us from believing

0:41.0

that the creep employed help.

0:43.6

So have a listen, come to your own conclusions.

0:47.0

This particular story revolves around 19-year-old John Mowry, who had just finished an 18-month

0:52.8

tour with the United States Marine Corps, and who had returned home in early 1977.

0:58.6

He was last seen by his family in late September.

1:05.0

The thing about John was that he was her first boyfriend that was reliable, called her

1:18.4

on a daily basis, it was consistent.

1:21.1

I was always part of what they spoke about because she would then tell me, and I actually

1:30.0

could hear what their conversations were, if she went to his house or if they went out,

1:36.8

she then would always call me right away and let me know what happened.

1:41.4

She had also told me that John had told her about his sister having been killed, so their

1:48.8

family had a lot of tragedy.

1:52.7

John had been the one to find his sister, murdered, and so that may have been part of the reason

2:01.5

why he just had a different personality from guys that we knew that were that age.

2:09.2

He had more integrity or he had more appreciation for life, something about him was very special.

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