The Future of War Is Here

Plain English with Derek Thompson

The Ringer

News Commentary, News

4.8 • 1.8K Ratings

🗓️ 16 May 2023

⏱️ 86 minutes

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Today’s episode is about how artificial intelligence will change the future of war. First, we have Brian Schimpf, the CEO of Anduril, a military technology company that builds AI programs for the Department of Defense. Next we have the Atlantic author Ross Andersen on how to prevent AI from blowing up the world. If you have questions, observations, or ideas for future episodes, email us at [email protected]. You can find us on TikTok at www.tiktok.com/@plainenglish_ Host: Derek Thompson Guests: Brian Schimpf and Ross Andersen Producer: Devon Manze Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hey, it's Sean Fennessy, one of the hosts of the Prestige TV podcast.
0:04.7	HBO's Barry is back for a fourth and final season, and that means I'll be back recapping
0:09.9	the show with co-creator and star, Bill Hader, to dive deep on the themes, scenes, and
0:14.4	major moments in the series.
0:16.2	Bill will provide insight into how every episode is made and why it's ending.
0:19.8	New Prestige TV Barry recaps will go live every Sunday night when the episode ends, so make
0:24.0	sure you're subscribed to the Prestige TV podcast wherever you get your podcasts.
0:30.8	What do you think of when you think about AI and war?
0:37.4	Maybe you think about SkyNet and the Terminator.
0:40.8	Maybe you think about killer drones going rogue.
0:44.7	Or maybe you're a little bit more creative and you think about misaligned AI acting as
0:49.9	a terrorist, stealing money, ransoming military leaders, and generally creating havoc.
0:55.8	Or maybe for some reason, you think about peace.
1:00.8	You think about a curtain of atomic robots hovering in the air, threatening to demolish
1:05.0	any invading army with such gravitas that we all freeze in place and we get world peace
1:12.3	under the watchful eye of aligned AI.
1:16.3	It seems to me that AI has a way of doing this in the common discourse of the day.
1:22.2	It has a way of pushing everybody's ideas about the future into too clean and opposite
1:27.3	categories.
1:28.3	It's dystopia or it's utopia, either everybody dies or it's heaven on earth, but the world
1:36.2	doesn't really ever work out like that, does it?
1:41.0	You and I don't live in dystopia and we never have.
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