The Future of Trans Sports with Chris Mosier
TransLash Podcast with Imara Jones
TransLash Media
4.3 • 619 Ratings
🗓️ 22 January 2026
⏱️ 35 minutes
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Summary
The issue of trans participation in sports continues to be a major political talking point on the right. Congress has pending legislation that would restrict trans people’s ability to play sports, and hundreds of similar bills have already been introduced this year at the state-level. This week, Imara chats with Chris Mosier, a trailblazing trans athlete who made history and has just contributed to a new book called Fair Game, which debunks the core made-up-ideas about trans people in sports. Fair Game: Trans Athletes and The Future Of Sports is available on January 27th.
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| 0:00.0 | Hey fam, it's me Amara. |
| 0:08.9 | Welcome to the TransLash podcast, a show where we tell trans stories to save trans lives. |
| 0:14.6 | Well, we are fresh from arguments at the Supreme Court about trans people's ability to equally participate in sports |
| 0:22.6 | at schools and universities across America. But the debate isn't over. That's because right |
| 0:29.7 | across the street from the Supreme Court, the Congress has pending legislation, restricting |
| 0:34.7 | trans people's ability to play sports, which was passed by the House and |
| 0:39.0 | awaits Senate action. Moreover, additional congressional moves are likely this year, and |
| 0:44.8 | hundreds of anti-trans bills, including those on sports, have already been introduced at |
| 0:51.0 | the state level. But one of the things driving this debate are mids, out-and-out |
| 0:56.6 | pseudoscience, which pushes the advantages that trans people, specifically trans women, supposedly |
| 1:02.6 | have, are behind a lot of the controversy. And this fiction does not match the experience of actual trans athletes. |
| 1:12.6 | That's why today we are taking on these unproven political talking points |
| 1:18.6 | by speaking with a trans athlete who has been at the heart of the debate over athletic competition |
| 1:24.6 | and its explosive politicization, Chris Mosher, who has made sports history and has just contributed to a new book called Fair |
| 1:33.0 | Game, debunks the core made-up ideas about trans people in sports. |
| 1:39.2 | All of this is intentional, and so this idea of intentionally painting, particularly trans women, as being a threat in sports, |
| 1:48.2 | is by design to make it easier for discrimination to happen in other areas of life. |
| 1:54.2 | But before we get into it, let's start out as always with some trans joy. I'm excited to highlight a rather unconventional sport today that I'm guessing that not too many of you have heard of. |
| 2:22.3 | Combat robotics. |
| 2:24.3 | By day, Jay Lee is a teacher, and by night they build robots and compete with them at the National Havoc Robot League, or N.H.R.L. They started competing after their |
| 2:38.0 | students asked them to sponsor a robotics club. Together, the whole club traveled to the national |
| 2:44.5 | competition and put their first robot into the ring. Now Jay builds their own robots, modeled after Mecca from anime, as the |
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