And welcome to another episode of Bukari Sellers podcast. Well, you know, we always try to make

sure that we bring smart people to you. Smarter than me, people who can tell you about what's going on in the world and make sense of what is silly season.

Actually, this is a pretty calm season because we are now done with the election, but everybody's not looking ahead to what Congress is and all of those other things.

And as I've said many times before, America always

gets what she deserves. And so we'll have to see what the next two years, four years hold. And to

help us dissect all of that, we have, Ursula Pirano. How are you today?

Thanks for having me on. Oh, man. Thank you so much. So my show is kind of unique in that we

ask all of our guests the same first question, except friends of the show who've already been on before. But we start each of our shows by having our guest walk us through the arc of their careers. And you've spent time at Axios and Daily Beast, and now you're with Politico. Talk to us through each of those stops. And why did you choose to write about Congress?

Yeah, I mean, prior to those stops when I was in college, I went to school at Florida State,

and so it was in the state capital.

And there was a lot of access to state government reporting.

Kind of fell in love with the mess that is legislative bodies and members actually having to work together on legislation.

And Tallahassee is a mess.

Tallahassee is a lot, for sure, and especially Florida politics is always just wild.

So definitely fell in love with it there, came straight out of school two weeks after I graduated to Axios.

It was a very fast-paced environment.

It was in Axios' earlier days where everything, I think, was even scrappier.

And that just really started to roll more and more.

Daily Beast was great.

Got some campaigns and Congress experience in.

And then I've been at Politico for about a

year and a half now, and specifically covering the Senate, but Congress were at large. And, you know,

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