The Future of Representative Government

Hillsdale Dialogues

Hillsdale College

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🗓️ 15 December 2025

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Supreme Court arguments concerning the existence of independent government agencies, Christmas at Hillsdale College, the consequences of unrestricted immigration in Europe, and the rise of radical candidates in the Democratic party. Dr. Larry P. Arnn, president of Hillsdale College, joins Hugh Hewitt on the Hillsdale Dialogues.

Release date: 12 December 2025

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0:00.0	Every week, Hillsdale College President Larry Arne joins Hugh Hewitt to discuss great books,
0:11.1	great men, and great ideas. This is Hillsdale Dialogues, part of the Hillsdale College
0:18.1	Podcast Network. More episodes at podcast.
0:21.5	Hillsdale.edu or wherever you find your audio.
0:30.2	Morning and glory and evening in grace, America.
0:32.5	I'm Hugh Hewitt.
0:33.3	That music means we're in the last hour of the week,
0:36.2	the last broadcast hour of the week,
0:37.6	the Hillsdale Dialogue.
0:39.5	All things Hillsdale, including applications of the wonderful college up north, is found at
0:45.0	Hillsdale.edu.
0:46.4	All of our prior Hillsdale dialogues can be found at Hugh for Hillsdale.com.
0:51.1	Taking a break this week from Winston Churchill's World War II memoir. Thank you for all the nice comments about the Thanksgiving and day after Thanksgiving marathon with the first six hours of the series. We'll continue next week and on into the year. But this week, there are too many big issues that have happened in the last few weeks that I just want to get Dr. Arn to take on. Dr. Leran, of course, President of Hiltale College. Merry Christmas to you, Dr. Arn. Later on, I'll be asking you about how you're making Mary up in Hillsdale, but let me at this point start by asking you, did you follow the Supreme Court argument earlier this week about independent agencies and whether or not they're constitutional. I did. I have an
1:29.0	opinion, but I'm wondering what you think. I read about it, and I think it's fundamentally
1:34.1	important and promising. The question it presents is, shall the people be governed by experts
1:40.6	with lifetime tenure or shall they be governed by people they elect and the whole idea
1:48.6	behind the birth of the modern civil service as we like to refer to it which church still once
1:55.0	famously called no longer civil and no longer servants is that because they're experts and they have tenure and they have
2:03.0	guaranteed incomes, there'll be nothing to worry about from them.
2:06.5	They will behave themselves.
2:08.7	And that seems to me a denial of human nature.
2:12.9	Whether you like the president of the day or not, he's got to get elected every four years. And that should be
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