Kevin, you just formed this compelling theory about our future.

The economic handoff to bots.

It all starts from human population decline.

Every year, you have a smaller audience, a smaller marketplace, a smaller workforce.

That's got to be a different kind of capitalism than we've had.

I think it's kind of no coincidence at the very

moment when the number of species of humans on the planet plunges that we actually are creating

artificial species in AI. We're going to want to have an autonomous economy populated by millions,

billions, trillions of bots. We will soon be outnumbered.

So there might be a way in which the AIs are actually consumers as well as producers.

You make a robot and needs a room. So we're expanding the possibility space to include other kinds of entities.

And then the question is, what will motivate them, right? What are the incentive signals?

It's not hard to program in values and judgment and stuff because it's almost like software.

It's like code.

The difficulty is for us to come to some consensus about what it is that we want to give them.

We're trying to make them better than us.

A lot of our experiences are about struggle.

What does a bot-to-bot economy feel like for us? We don't struggle about surviving and starving. We have other kinds of

struggles about who we are and what we're here for. And I think AIs can help us with that because

they're going to answer, what are we here for? Why are we doing this and help us elevate to a greater purpose?

Hey everyone, it's a zine. You've just heard highlights from my discussion with Kevin Kelly.

Kevin is a co-founder of Wired Magazine and a renowned author and futurist.

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