Hi, happy holidays. While I'm away this holiday season, I wanted to drop here a few of my

conversations with leading experts in AI. I discussed how AI might surprise us in 2025 with Ethan

Mollick, Dylan Patel, Nathan Benach and Kai Fu Lee. The conversations were initially released for

members of Exponential View. Here's my discussion with Kai Fu Lee. I'm delighted to be

chatting to my friend Kai Fu Lee, a long term, a friend of Exponential View. He's a storied

artificial intelligence, researcher, inventor, operator and investor. Based in Taiwan, he runs

innovation ventures and has really been busy in the last few years with a series

of generative AI efforts. Kai Fu, thanks for joining us this evening.

Yes, hi, Azim. Glad to be here again.

Now, generative AI has really swept the US and Europe, the term generative AI. It's become

synonymous with artificial intelligence,

much to the annoyance of many long-standing AI researchers.

You see the world, of course, as broader than that.

Has that been the same in your parts of the world?

Yeah, I think overall in Asia, specifically in China, I think generative AI is generating

a lot of waves. It's probably not at the same

height as a U.S. partly because I think when Chad GPT came out, it was one of a kind. And it was

not believable that one could have that kind of user experience and quality. So that kind of became

viral. Whereas in much of Asia, I think there are a

number of competitors by the time the term became hot, both American and Chinese and from other

origins. So people are feeling, oh, a number of companies can build it and they're all free. So I think it's not created.

It didn't have that chat GPT moment, but certainly more slowly, it's kind of taking off or people

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