This is the Libertarian Podcast from the Hoover Institution.

I'm your host Tom Church and I'm joined as always by the Libertarian Professor Richard Epstein.

Here at Hoover, Richard is the Peter and Kirsten Bedford Senior Fellow.

He is the Lawrence A Tish Professor of Law at NYU, and he's also a senior lecturer at the University of Chicago.

Richard, this week, I'd like to talk about your column surrounding Gaza and as you call it, the elusive

ceasefire.

Many many calls for ceasefire.

Nothing there yet.

The United States just vetoed a resolution of the UN. We'll get into this.

I want to point out Richard today's February 23rd.

Israel has largely completed operations in the north of Gaza and is preparing to go into the south.

It's given Hamas in ultimatum, which is return all of the hostages, or we will invade

Rafa on March 10th the first day of Ramadan.

And as you know, international pressure

has been immense to prevent any more operations.

We're going up on month five, six of this conflict.

President Biden proposed recently a six-week ceasefire in order to work out hostage issues and put the two sides on a path to a two-state solution.

So that's where we are now.

Now our colleagues who run Goodfellows, Neil Ferguson, John Cochran, had a very recent episode

at Dents and Yoran and they were talking about the similar issue.

Neil is actually in Israel right now chatting with Israeli leadership, the people on the left and

the right and one thing I think that struck me was that he said the country is unified right now and no one there is talking about a two-state

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