The Future of Food: Can Regenerative Farming Save Our Soil? (Andy Cato)
Radical with Amol Rajan
BBC
4.5 • 919 Ratings
🗓️ 21 May 2026
⏱️ 58 minutes
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Summary
This week, guest host Oli Dugmore, speaks to Andy Cato, one half of electronic music duo Groove Armada and a leading advocate for regenerative farming.
Andy argues that modern agriculture is reaching a breaking point. He says that a reliance on chemical farming has degraded our ecosystems, taken agency away from farmers, and made us over reliant on fragile international trade systems. Through regenerative farming, he believes it’s possible to restore ecosystems, rebuild soil health and create a more resilient food system for the 21st century.
They discuss Andy’s unlikely journey from global touring musician to farmer, including selling his music catalogue to buy land, and the founding of Wildfarmed, a business aiming to help farmers transition to regenerative agriculture while remaining profitable. Andy also explains why he believes traditional farming is no longer sustainable, how a different model could be financed, and what the benefits could be for farmers, consumers and the environment alike.
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| 0:00.0 | BBC Sounds, music radio podcasts |
| 0:04.5 | Newscast is on the face of it, a podcast about the news. |
| 0:11.2 | But it's also perhaps the world's most athletic podcast, |
| 0:14.0 | we have BBC correspondents dashing in and out, |
| 0:16.3 | ready to give us a deeper understanding of the biggest stories of the day. |
| 0:19.9 | Thankfully, we let them catch their breath before we actually start recording the podcast. |
| 0:24.1 | Listen to Newscast every day on BBC Sounds. |
| 0:36.1 | Hello, it's Olly Dougmore here. Welcome to Radical, the podcast where we have conversations |
| 0:40.3 | about the global trends, changing our world, and radical ideas for the future. In my day job, |
| 0:45.4 | I'm the executive digital editor of the new statesman, but this week I'll be standing in for a mole |
| 0:49.5 | while he's up in Scotland, filming something called The Traders. Today I'm joined by Andy Cato, |
| 0:54.6 | farmer, innovator and one half of Groove Armada for a conversation about rebuilding our food |
| 0:59.1 | systems, quite literally from the ground up. There's a radical change happening in the world |
| 1:04.1 | of farming and Andy is on the front line. He's also had a bit of a radical change in his own |
| 1:08.5 | life as well. Andy walked away from the music industry and sold the rights to his back catalogue to take on one of the toughest challenges of our time, to try and change the way we grow things and champion regenerative farming. |
| 1:21.6 | While traditional modern farming focuses on maximizing output and scale, regenerative farming centres on restoring ecosystems and building long-term |
| 1:28.9 | resilience to the problems of the 21st century, the changing climate, and conflicts around the |
| 1:33.6 | world impacting the flow of the fertilisers and chemicals needed for mainstream farming methods. |
| 1:38.3 | In 2019, Andy founded Wildfarmed, a company which wants to help farmers transition to |
| 1:43.4 | regenerative systems while staying profitable. |
| 1:46.3 | Quick reminder that if you subscribe to this podcast on BBC Sounds, you won't miss future episodes, |
| 1:51.2 | including your radical questions, which is our Q&A episode that comes out on a Monday. |
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