You know, one of the things that I've been reflecting on and looking back on 2020 is like,

what parts of me change the most. And I honestly think that the part of me that

changed the most is like the clothes that I wear. I was kind of a minimalist anyway before

the pandemic. But now it's like the same pair of gray sweatshorts and the same like five or

six t-shirts. And that's it. I've even noticed that like Instagram has noticed and they send me

ads for that kind of a tire or like stretchy flannel shirts. Has it changed for you?

Fashion critic for Washington Post. I mean, I think the fashion industry is sending you those

emails saying, please, please, don't do this to us. That is Robin Gavon, the award-winning

fashion critic at the Washington Post. Has my style of dress changed? I would say not significantly.

Actually. Really? I'm stubbornly committed to like getting up, working out, showering,

and then putting on like a sweater, skirt, pair of pants, actual waistband, shoes. I know,

I'm weird. That's inspirational. Robin is on another fashion planet than the rest of us.

So I sort of get it. But maybe you are more like me working from home with nowhere to go and

no one to impress. I mean, seriously, I am not lying when I say I haven't worn a shirt with

buttons in weeks, perhaps months. You're listening to It's Been a Minute from NPR. I'm Sam Sanders

and on our episode today, pandemic fashion. As we all know by now, the pandemic has forced a lot

of industries to change. But for the fashion industry, that dawning came a little more slowly.

You know, I'll use that old analogy about a frog in the warm water that slowly starts to boil.

Oh. I know. Like the fashion industry slowly started to boil.

Robin Gavon gave me a sort of timeline. In March, April, there was a sense that

everything had come to a grinding halt, certainly. But I think there was a lot of projected optimism.

And then I think somewhere around the end of the summer, when it became very clear that

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