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It's Been a Minute

Lessons from 9/11 for Today's Extremism; Plus 'Crazy Stories About Racism'

It's Been a Minute

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🗓️ 22 January 2021

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

How will the response to far-right extremism compare to the response after 9/11? Sam talks to Hannah Allam, NPR national security correspondent, about the security and civil liberties debate over taking a "war on terror" mindset to today's far-right threat. Also, Sam chats with sisters Amber Ruffin and Lacey Lamar, co-authors of the book You'll Never Believe What Happened to Lacey, about their inexplicable, sometimes hilarious, but always horrifying stories of everyday racism.

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0:00.0

Hey y'all, this is Sans Aunt Betty. This week, what a new administration can do about white

0:07.2

nationalism. Alright, let's start the show.

0:12.6

You're listening to It's Been A Minute from NPR. I'm Sam Sanders. So we have a new president,

0:18.2

a new administration, a new owner of the POTUS Twitter account. And you know, it's a little hard

0:23.2

to believe that we're here now. When just two weeks ago, we had an insurrection on the US Capitol.

0:29.9

Because of that siege and the pandemic, President Biden's inauguration was closed off to the public.

0:35.0

You saw the images. It was eerie. The seat of our democracy, it was just plain locked down.

0:42.0

Still, Joe Biden was sworn in without a hitch. And he was serenaded by Lady Gaga and Jala.

0:48.6

But just because something didn't happen that day, it doesn't mean the threat we all saw on display

0:54.5

during the Capitol Interaction goes away forever.

0:57.3

The President is the clear now. Arise the political extremism, white supremacy, domestic terrorism,

1:07.6

that we must confront it and we will defeat.

1:12.7

There has been a recognition of what's been true for a long time is that far right groups,

1:18.0

according to the FBI, are the deadliest and the most active domestic terror threat.

1:23.7

That is Hannah Alam. She covers national security for NPR. And Hannah says these groups,

1:29.1

right now, anyway, since the Capitol siege, they've gone quiet.

1:33.0

You know, they're lying low. If you ask them, they'll say, oh, we have longer term plans and

1:39.5

things. But I mean, also, they are in kind of crisis mode right now. You know, Trump was kind of the

1:46.0

glue that was binding all these disparate groups together. And if he's removed from the picture,

1:52.8

or at least side-lined, or not as powerful as before, absolutely. So we'll see. And we're already

1:58.8

seeing groups kind of fighting within their groups, fighting other groups.

2:04.8

The big question right now is, what happens next for these far right groups? How tough will law

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