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Modern War Institute

The Future Battlefield, from Europe to the Indo-Pacific

Modern War Institute

John Amble

Government, News

4.7798 Ratings

🗓️ 1 May 2025

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

For more than three years, journalists, researchers, and military professionals have sought to describe the key dynamics of the war in Ukraine and determine what they tell us about the future of warfare. One of the sharpest observers has been retired Australian Army Major General Mick Ryan. He joins this episode to share some of his thoughts about the ongoing war—and what it indicates about the changing character of warfare. He also explores the ways that lessons from Ukraine should be translated and inform our understanding of the very different strategic landscape and operational environment of the Indo-Pacific region.   The MWI Podcast is produced with the generous support of the West Point Class of 1974.

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0:00.0

Hey, MWI podcast listeners, before we get to this episode, I've got some exciting news about a really

0:05.7

interesting opportunity. If you follow MWI, you're almost certainly familiar with the Harding Project,

0:11.7

while the Harding Fellowship prepares Army leaders to drive professional discussion. Harding Fellows

0:17.2

earn a graduate degree and then edit their branch journals, helping to shape

0:21.3

the ideas that shape the Army.

0:23.4

So if you know a Sharp Officer, Senior NCO, or Warrant Officer who might be interested,

0:27.9

please tell them that they can learn all about this opportunity at www.lineof Departure.

0:33.3

Dot army.mill slash Harding.

0:45.0

Thank you. army.mill slash Harding. When you talk to battalion and brigade commanders on the front line, they will be very clear.

0:50.9

Drones don't replace the combined arms system.

0:56.0

They complement it and enhance it.

0:57.0

I really despise this term transparent battlefield because it's not transparent. It's highly

1:03.0

visible and the detection to destruction gap is closed. But it's not transparent. You cannot

1:08.0

see into the minds and hearts of soldiers.

1:11.7

That's not possible.

1:14.2

To fight tonight, you have to survive tonight, and that means you've got to have dispersal

1:18.4

plans on mourning.

1:20.8

The Pacific, if we have to fight China, will be a multi-core undertaking.

1:26.7

This is a global adaptation war where we're seeing, we've seen the

1:30.5

development of a learning community between Russia, Iran, North Korea and China.

1:38.1

Hey, welcome back to the MWI podcast. I brought to you with the generous support of the

1:42.3

West Point Class of 1974. I'm John Amble, and on this episode, I'm joined by Mick Ryan.

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