Today is the final episode in our three-part series that has featured the stories of Matt and Cassie and Derek and Kaylee.

These friends, despite the manipulation and lies by church leaders, found a way back to each other.

Today, all four will join us to share the beautiful story of their reconciliation.

I'm Jay Coyle, and this is The Bodies Behind the Bus podcast.

I am all about blessed subtraction.

There is a pile of dead bodies behind the Marseville bus.

And by God's grace, it'll be a mountain by the time we're done.

You either get on the bus or you get run over by the bus.

Those are the options.

But the bus ain't going to stop.

You either get on the bus

or you get run over by the bus.

Those are the bus.

Those are the options.

But the bus I can stop.

All right.

So we're excited to have this wonderful group of people back after hearing two compelling stories. So first, just thank you, thank you everyone for being here.

So we talked a little bit, Derek and your story and Kaylee's story about being put on church

discipline. So I want to talk through Derek and Kayla, you both were very close with Matt and

Cassie. So what did that do to the friendship when you got put on church discipline?

When it initially happened, I reached out to Cassie and we just kind of talked through

kind of the situations and things that had been going on. Cassie, was that before or after

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