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Brett McKay here and welcome to another edition of the Art of Manliness podcast.

Winston Churchill once said of his only son, I love Randolph, but I don't like him.

It's a cinnamon mini-apparent with a tumultuous relationship with one of their children can relate to,

and well describes both how Winston felt about Randolph and how Randolph felt about his father.

My guest day details Winston and Randolph's incredibly close and yet terribly complex and combustible relationship in his new book, Churchill and Son.

His name is Josh Ireland and we begin our discussion with how Winston's own harsh and neglectful father influenced his own decision

to be a much more involved and ultimately indulgent family man.

In the way he spoiled the son who is already inclined towards appalling behavior,

Josh describes the man in which Winston and Randolph both bonded and fought,

and the effect the trouble Randolph caused had on the relationship between Winston and his wife.

We then get into how World War II and the way Winston may have encouraged Randolph's wife to cheat on him with an American diplomat,

affected Randolph's relationship with his father for the worse.

Josh explains the outsized expectation Winston had for Randolph and the points at which father and son respectively realized they'd never be fulfilled,

and the less to be taken from the story about the cost of parents imposing their own dreams on their children.

We inter-conversation by discussing why it is that the children of great leaders rarely turn out well themselves for,

as Randolph himself observed, nothing grows in the shadow of a great oak dream.

After the show's over, check out our show notes at a.wim.is slash Churchill and Son.

Alright, Josh Ireland, welcome to the show.

Thanks and well, ready to place beyond.

So you got a new biography out about Winston Churchill,

but this isn't just any other regular Winston Churchill biography.

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