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This is Frank Skinner on absolute radio. I'm with the comedian Alan Cochran and the popular author Emily Dean this morning.

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Still novel, isn't it? Still novel the old insta. He holds that word in front of him. It's slightly alarmed by it. Thank you darling.

I do. You know, every morning before the show begins, we have a discussion about the about stool heights. Yes.

It's not a biological thing. We're talking about everything's the set, the desk in here. If you press a button, it goes higher or lower.

But the stool is still a little behind technically in that it's one of those where you have to, I don't know what you do. I don't do it.

It's manual. It's manual shift. I think I'm getting a little bit higher every week as I'm very dark.

I think the way we're doing this show is to know the uncle in Mary Poppins who's on the ceiling and can't come down.

I think that's how it's going to end up. I see that as your role.

It's a great publicity shot. The problem is, I mean, I appreciate perhaps they don't want to be bored by this stuff.

But I have to say the higher the desk, the colder it is at knee level. So I've now taken to wearing a coat as a sort of blanket.

I'm sorry. It's come to that. It's quite clean and print. It's Philip though.

It sounds like some sort of wartime, freedom fighters. Lord Ho-Ho, who was a freedom fighter on the other side.

It's never been described so.

Oh, my dad used to go on and on about Lord Ho-Ho.

Could you forgive me? Oh, really? He seemed like he bore a bit of a grudge there, your dad, to be fair.

Lord Ho-Ho was like a laugh. I'm glad you chose that option.

I think he was Irish, but I think he lived near where we came from.

But he used to broadcast on behalf of Nazi Germany, saying things like that.

Oh, good. I think so. Come on, give up. You know, he got no chance.

And he used to name factories near to us apparently, because he knew the area.

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