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Hello and welcome to Trumpcast. I'm Virginia Heffernan. Just when I thought I was out,

pull me back in. Trumpcast has been working hard to drop the bulk of its title since Joe

Biden won the election in November. We promised to stay until this is over and we were going

to stay through the inauguration of the next president just to be on the safe side. But

as the nation's capital is being fortified against the president of the United States

and his foot soldiers, the definition of safe side has become somewhat complicated.

So to answer your many questions about what will become of Trumpcast, the answer is the

same as it's always been. We promise to stay until this is over. And while that won't

include the post-presidency trials of our criminal president, may they be millions, it

may indeed mean that sometime into Biden's presidency, as this second impeachment in

the House goes forward and Trump gets a trial in the Senate and God willing, though

damned unlikely, a conviction. To understand how we came to a second impeachment, to understand

how we came to this stupifying pass, which looks a lot like Civil War, I'm going to talk

to David Weissman today. David Weissman is an Army veteran and a former Trump troll who

once considered the very insurgents that stormed the Capitol last week, including the proud

boys. They were his brothers in arms. He supported their causes and eagerly revved up for Civil

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