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The Football Reporters: Can Arsenal turn heartbreak into dominance?

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Sports, Soccer

4.32.7K Ratings

🗓️ 2 June 2026

⏱️ 52 minutes

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After Arsenal’s penalty shootout defeat to PSG, Rob Dawson, Mark Ogden and James Olley wonder what Mikel Arteta can do to turn his side into the best in Europe. Plus, Beth Lindop joins to reflect on Arne Slot’s time at Liverpool, and the challenges awaiting his likely replacement in Andoni Iraola. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to the Football Reporters. I'm Rob Dawson joined by Mark Ogden

0:11.6

and James Olly, who were both in Budapest to watch Arsenal fall just short of Champions League glory.

0:15.7

We're welcoming Beth Lindock to reflect on Arnestlot's Liverpool exit and discuss what awaits Andoni

0:20.8

Iriola,

0:21.4

as a likely next man in. And finally, a way to early look at the contenders for Arsenal's

0:25.7

Premier League crown next season. Well, we're going to start this week with the Champions

0:31.9

League final, PSG, Champions League winners for the second year in a row. Arsenal, obviously

0:36.7

very close to winning it for the first time.

0:40.3

Mark, James, you were both at the game.

0:42.0

James, I'm just going to start with you first.

0:44.5

What have you made of the reaction to the game?

0:48.1

It seems to this kind of narrative that PSG deserved to win

0:50.7

because they were the only team that turned up and wanted to play football.

0:53.9

Are you of that opinion or were Arsenal deserving of a bit more credit than that?

0:59.2

I mean, I don't think, I think two things are being conflated here.

1:03.4

There's this style question about Arsenal, which is valid and, you know, is a season long question about how they've built a team and how they

1:13.6

want to play football. And then there's how you approach a final against the best team in the

1:17.6

world. And I don't think there was any other way Arsenal could have played that game

1:22.6

to have a chance of winning it. And also the fact that they scored so early, what was this,

1:28.2

five, six minutes in with Kai Abbott, it almost reinforced that idea of, well, actually,

1:33.9

now we've got something to defend. And whatever their plans were, I think the fact that

1:39.5

they had a lead to protect probably made them almost revert to type even more than they might have

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