For many years now, a chat named Martin Koshivinsky has been on my radar.

Each year on Pi Day, March 14, he releases stunning artworks and visualisations celebrating

the famous constant. I was looking forward to

seeing what he'd do this year. But you know what? Martin's thrown in bit of a curveball. For 2022,

instead of his typical visualisations, he's teamed up with a composer named Gregory Coles

to create an album of six pieces of music, each based on pie

in a different way. The collection is called 314, of course, and I'm speaking today to both Martin

and Greg about all six tracks.

Right. My name is Martin Sivinsky. I work and live in Vancouver, Canada,

at Canada's Michael Smith Genome Science Center. I research data visualization. I do quite a lot of science communication. I teach people how to be good explainers of science visually. And as part of that,

I make quite a lot of art that is at the intersection of science and art and art and explanation and

communication. Sometimes the art is frivolous and fun to look at.

Sometimes it's about communicating complicated things.

And every year I make, I task myself with making some kind of art based on the digits of pie.

Many people, including myself, have been awaiting what visual treat you may

unleash on Pi Day.

But you've done something different this year.

Can you explain what you've done this year and perhaps how it leads into the chap sitting

next year?

Oh, Greg, of course.

Yeah.

So this year is quite a bit different. It's very different. And I've been

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