All right, hello everyone. Welcome to Karen Affairs. We are here with Chris Smalls, founder of the

Amazon Labor Union, author of the new book When the Revolution Comes. We are here in Havana, Cuba right now,

with the New Easter America Mission. So Chris, how's it going? Yeah, it's good, man. Thank you for having me. I'm glad to be here.

So I want to start, we're going to get to the book and we're going to get to the union. But I want to

start with this aid mission that we're on now to Cuba. People probably know since the end of January

the Trump administration has had Cuba under total oil blockade, no fuel

coming in, blackouts happening all the time. So how do you get in touch with this mission?

And what brought you to Cuba? Yeah, I was honored to be a delegate as far as progressive

international and cold pink pink representing over 130 different

organizations from around the world bringing about almost half a million dollars worth of

donations whether via via via flotilla that's on the ways and yeah you know this is definitely something

that touched near to my heart,

as you know, being on the Flotilla mission going to Gaza this past summer. But also previously,

I visited Havana, Cuba three years ago and did a similar mission with a smaller delegation,

bringing the labor delegation. Actually, I brought about 10 members from

my union down here to work with the community. And also at that time, we were dealing with the

similar issues, blockade on oil and inhumane conditions for the people of Cuba. So I'm just trying to,

you know, as a labor leader,

as a organizer and as a civilian with the freedoms and liberties that we have in America,

I want to see the people of Cuba be able to have the same type of freedom. Yeah, Sam. And that's

why we came here with, you know, the current affairs delegation, you know, me and Nathan Robinson.

So as you, we've been here now about two and a half days. I got here on Thursday.

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