The Federal Aid Freeze and Reversal
The Brian Lehrer Show
WNYC
4.6 • 1.5K Ratings
🗓️ 30 January 2025
⏱️ 40 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | It's the Brian Lairn on WNYC. Good morning, everyone. |
| 0:15.2 | On this program, in addition to covering the many new policies coming out of the Trump administration, we will keep asking, is this what democracy looks like? |
| 0:24.6 | Is Trump, as many people are concerned he is, trying to transform our very system of government into something more authoritarian? |
| 0:32.6 | We are not assuming a yes answer to that. It's sometimes too easy, I think, to yell dictator when there's a balance of powers action |
| 0:40.5 | that people don't like. |
| 0:41.7 | But in fairness, the question is in play. |
| 0:44.9 | And we remember that three of Trump's top national security officials, of all people, |
| 0:49.3 | from his first term, have labeled him a fascist. |
| 0:52.1 | So that's a serious context that I think requires us to keep asking, |
| 0:56.9 | is this what democracy looks like when that question is relevant? And so it is with the blizzard of |
| 1:03.7 | executive orders that Trump has issued so far. New ones in the last day include using the prison |
| 1:09.6 | at Guantanamo Bay to house up to 30,000 |
| 1:13.0 | migrants facing deportation proceedings, one that would rescind the student visas for international |
| 1:19.2 | students who committed crimes during pro-Palestinian protests on college campuses, and one that |
| 1:25.8 | would seek to stop schools from teaching about what Trump calls |
| 1:29.8 | gender ideology and discriminatory equity ideology. And those, of course, come after the headline |
| 1:39.0 | ones in recent days freezing almost all foreign aid and most domestic federal grant programs, plus the |
| 1:46.5 | offer to pay an eight-month salary buyout to almost any federal employee willing to leave |
| 1:53.9 | their job. It's questionable whether that is actually something that's in the law. So like those |
| 2:00.1 | policies or not, most of them raise |
| 2:03.1 | questions about whether they are even legal or constitutional. And so we will go over some of |
| 2:08.3 | them now to ask, is this what democracy looks like? With Kate Shaw, law professor at the |
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