The Fear of Touch and Time
Bewildered
Martha Beck and Rowan Mangan
4.8 • 1.4K Ratings
🗓️ 3 September 2025
⏱️ 64 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | So Marty, I got a text from our friend Kate the other night that literally said, |
| 0:04.6 | how many chickens would you say you have in your living room right now because the yard flooded? |
| 0:09.7 | Which is Kate's very cute way of saying, I've got chickens in my living room. |
| 0:16.1 | Three chickens, two cats. |
| 0:19.4 | Yeah, it was a complicated evening. |
| 0:22.8 | And just that one text led us into a really interesting conversation about the way our culture teaches us to avoid the things that make life rich and full and it substitutes for them, hollow |
| 0:42.3 | pixelated abstractions. |
| 0:44.9 | So, yes, touch is the thing we avoid and time is the thing we fear. |
| 0:50.7 | And we went into a deep discussion about it. |
| 0:54.2 | Yeah, I think we pretty much solved the meaning of life. |
| 0:56.9 | So hope you enjoy it, everyone. |
| 0:59.0 | See you on the other side. |
| 1:01.6 | So as some of you listeners may know, a few months ago, |
| 1:04.6 | Roe and I started something called the Wilder Community, |
| 1:07.9 | which is kind of an online village, |
| 1:10.5 | where people like us who want to find |
| 1:13.2 | our true nature, even if it peels us away from culture, can get together, commun, make friends, |
| 1:20.0 | and do things. |
| 1:21.5 | We have all kinds of regular events in there that are just so fun. |
| 1:25.1 | We have a weekly hang where we get together and we have |
| 1:28.3 | conversation. We make art in our own little rooms, in our own little places, but all together. |
| 1:34.5 | There are group meditations that Martha leads that are crazy powerful. And there are just |
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