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Negotiate Anything

The FBI Method for Spotting Lies and Hidden Agendas

Negotiate Anything

American Negotiation Institute

Education, Careers, Business

4.8659 Ratings

🗓️ 7 July 2025

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

What if you could detect a lie without asking a single question? In this episode, we sit down with John R. "Jack" Schafer, a former FBI behavioral analyst and author of The Like Switch, to uncover the elite tools used by the FBI to detect deception—tools you can use in your everyday life. From the subtle power of elicitation to the science behind the word “well,” Dr. Schafer reveals how small signals can expose big lies. You’ll learn how to read nonverbal cues, handle omissions, and disarm deception without damaging the relationship. Whether you're negotiating a deal, interviewing a candidate, or just navigating a tough conversation, this episode will change the way you listen, forever. Connect with John R. "Jack" Schafer ⁠Buy Now: The Truth Detector: An Ex-FBI Agent's Guide for Getting People to Reveal the Truth (The Like Switch Series Book 2)⁠ ⁠Buy Now: The Like Switch: An Ex-FBI Agent's Guide to Influencing, Attracting, and Winning People Over (1) (The Like Switch Series) Contact ANI ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Request A Customized Workshop For Your Company⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow Kwame Christian on LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠negotiateanything.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Click here to buy your copy of Finding Confidence in Conflict: How to Negotiate Anything and Live Your Best Life!

Transcript

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0:00.0

You are hypersensitive to the fact that person knows your lying. In other words, the good example is

0:05.6

that if you have the spot on your tie, nobody notices the spot on your tie until you say,

0:10.8

look at the spot on my tie, and that's the only thing they can look at. The other example is if you

0:15.4

bought a particular model of car, the next day after buying that car, you see that car everywhere,

0:22.2

and it's called the spotlight effect. So what that does is it enhances the nonverbal indicators of deception. So I can say to you,

0:30.4

I know you're lying because this, this, and that. And you go like, how does he know? Now, don't ask

0:36.0

the person, do you know somebody? Ask him,

0:38.6

when's the last time you saw him? When's the first time did you meet that person? So now

0:43.1

you're thinking, wow, you didn't ask me if I knew him. He said, when was the last time he met him?

0:50.3

Hey, I'm Kwame Christian, and you are about to step into the world of Negotiate Anything,

0:55.3

the number one negotiation podcast in the world where we teach you how to make difficult conversations easier

1:01.1

while getting more of what you want in the process.

1:04.0

Each episode is packed with practical tips and strategies from the experts.

1:08.5

We delve into negotiation, conflict resolution, and leadership skills

1:12.5

that are crucial in both business and in life. Whether you're closing a deal, managing a team,

1:18.0

or navigating personal relationships, negotiate anything provides you with the tools you need to

1:23.6

succeed. Our conversations are real, relatable, and most importantly, rooted in practicality.

1:30.0

So if you're ready to transform your conversations and elevate your negotiation skills,

1:35.1

join me on Negotiate Anything. Subscribe and listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you

1:41.2

love to listen. Let's make every conversation a winning negotiation.

1:48.1

Jack, thanks for joining us today. Oh, you're welcome. Glad to be here. Yes, it is an honor to have you.

1:53.9

This is the interview I've been waiting for since 2016 when I started this podcast. So this is

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